I have written yesterday about my great disappointment in Razzoo’s food choices and lack of nutritional information. I have also mentioned that I wrote them an e-mail letting them know about my great disappointment about their nutritional values or lack thereof. Actually their food seems to be loaded with nutrition it’s just not the right kind nor the right amount in my humble opinion. Well today I have received a response and it came from the president of the company no less. As I have promised them that I would post their answer being true to my word here is what he had to say:
Greg,
I appreciate your feedback but I’m going to respectfully take you to task on a few things and defend myself and Razzoo’s a bit. I noticed immediately that you said you “had doubts” and it seems in my humble opinion that you were in somewhat of a pre-determined mindset. You said that you were “stuck” in Razzoo’s being the dining destination. Wow, I’m already at a disadvantage.
We handle multiple requests for lighter options everyday even though we don’t list such options on the menu. Greg, our food is hearty, authentic and appropriately spiced. But, you stated that “you knew for sure there was no way you could eat anything healthy” at my establishment”. ? Really? I don’t read anywhere that you asked your server anything other than what kind of fish we served.
We work very hard to accommodate guests looking for healthier options. I would suggest a few items that are far from difficult and actually very easy for us to prepare. If our servers are asked for ideas of alternative cooking methods they are skilled at offering suggestions. About 10% of our food orders come in without any form of special instruction or request. At Razzoo’s “the answer is always yes, so what’s the question friend?”. It’s printed on the menu. I would propose:
Blackened Chicken? How about grilled chicken, lightly spiced, with white rice. A green dinner salad, no onions, no dressing or dressing on the side.
Blackened Fish? How about not blackened (It’s Tilapia by the way), lightly spiced or not spiced, grilled with white rice instead of dirty rice? Same dry salad as a substitute fro veggie.
We can boil or grill shrimp instead of frying. We have multiple salads on the menu that can be made as simply as a dieting guest prefers. The croutons can actually be left out. We have pastas that can be served with no sauce or sauce on the side. We have fresh green beans in house that we use for fried green bean appetizer. They can be easily sautéed and served as a side veggie with any item. We can do it. Do it everyday in every single restaurant.
As for nutritional information? I’ll never do it as to not mislead my guests. We are a fresh-prep concept. Subtle differences in ingredient amounts from dish to dish lead to substantial variances in fat and calorie content from one dish to another of the very same item. Those numbers can’t be reliable within an acceptable scientific range. There is enough scientific data on this available so as to not belabor that point.
I want you to enjoy your experience at Razzoo’s or at least have enough information to decide that it is not for you. I believe we can not only show you a great time but certainly provide you a meal that can meet your needs….if asked.
I’ll buy you and your family dinner to prove it. I hope you take me up on it. Let me know.
You can post this or forward as you wish. I realize that some are genuinely interested in productive, healthy discussion and debate and that some just want to pick a fight or argument or engage in “gotcha” contact with businesses. I’m ok with that. I am very serious about responsible restaurant and business management and am very proud of what we do.
I look forward to any further input you have and hope to see you in for dinner with us soon!
Respectfully,
Jeff Powell
President
Pretty solid argument with some fair points but I just wasn’t entirely convinced so I shot him another response.
Jeff,
First of all I would like to thank you for such a courteous and prompt response. It’s not often that you get a real response from a real person especially in such a short time.
As I have written in my earlier e-mail I was a frequent visitor of Razzoo’s before I have decided to shed some fat. I wouldn’t call myself a regular but we probably visited your restaurant half a dozen times a year. I was familiar with your menu and I was familiar with the options in food you had. I never bothered to look further than what was on the menu as I have always managed to find something different that I liked. We liked the tasty and zippy food just as much as everyone else who eats at Razzoo’s. When I wrote I “had doubts” it was an educated doubt based on prior experience. I knew your food and I knew it can’t be that good for you. I want you to know that it’s not only Razzoo’s where I have doubts. It’s practically every restaurant that I re-visit since the start of my transformation into more conscious eating. I always go in with concerns whether they offer anything that could be remotely close to healthy. I attribute the fact that I have found your food overly salty this time to my new eating habit that is significantly lower in sodium than before and my palate have re-adjusted to a much lower threshold level.
I have asked our server, Greg, several times in several ways if you provided nutritional information on any of your food items. It should have been a clear sign that I was looking for something on the healthy side. I agree, I did not ask for a special custom meal, it simply did not cross my mind. I will be sure to remember that in my future restaurant outings. I guess our server could have been a bit more pro-active about the situation but come to think of it the blame is probably just as much mine. I really wish you had been our server that night as the options you have offered in your response sure sound better than any of the alternatives that I could pick off the menu. It’s a real shame that I wasn’t offered any of these options by our server.
Nutritional information for made to order food can certainly be misleading. Even on prepackaged food studies have found that the actual caloric value can be off by as much as 18%. I am not denying this fact. But I am also positive that if the menu showed that the Tricky Fish with dirty rice and crawfish etouffee contains 1,800 calories and 5000 mg of sodium we can agree that it doesn’t really matter whether that 1,800 becomes 1,700 or 1,900 depending on how big of a dollop of butter was used when the fish got blackened. I will most certainly not order it.
As I have reached this point into my e-mail writing another response hit my inbox from Jeff:
Greg,
I’ve read your review after responding to you. I respect your opinion but find it inaccurate, pre-determined and without any fair objectivity. Most disturbing I find your comments about the patrons on-site judgmental and disturbing. Your efforts to improve your health are admirable. Congratulations. I question whether that gives you an appropriate platform to make such judgments or at least inferences about those around you based on their appearance.
Best of luck to you.
Jeff
So I had to respond to his last e-mail as well and I have added the following passage as closure:
I just received your second e-mail as I was writing this response. I might be sitting on a high horse now that I have gotten a handle on my own eating and health. I might be more judgmental of other people around me now that I’m no longer obese. But after eating part of my unhealthy meal I could not help but wonder as to “who eats at Razzoo’s?”. And there was not one person in sight that I would have called healthy looking. It might have been a coincidence but it is a fact. I also just became a US Citizen (hence the celebratory trip to Razzoo’s) and I truly value the rights and liberties the constitution gives me, especially about free speech. I will post your response on my blog tonight, I’m a big fan of “let the other side be heard too” mentality. I think by posting your response I will have provided an appropriate and objective position.
On a side note, I’d like to mention that my blog ranks 16th for “Razzoo’s Nutrition” on Google search as of this morning, a mere 10 hours after my blog entry has been posted.
Again, thank you for your time and response, I appreciate it.
Regards,
Greg
I think at this point we’ll just have to agree to disagree. His statement about the fact that only 10% of orders come in without special request makes me wonder though. Does he consider holding the mayo on a burger a special request? Or does it mean that 90% of the customers are unhappy with the menu choices by default and they have to make changes to it just to make it palatable. I’m pretty sure if Hell’s Kitchen with chef Gordon Ramsey would have a 90% special request rate he’d tell every one of his customers to “piss off!”. If I were a restaurateur I’d probably wonder why 9 out of 10 of my customers want to change the food items and alter my food. But then again, I’m not one.
I also find it perplexing that he mentions that they do special healthier portions for customers on a daily basis all day every day at all his restaurants. Wouldn’t that be a clear sign that there is a demand for it and maybe it’s time to stick it on the menu? I mean I’m not a businessman or anything but this kind of stuff seems to be Economics 101. But as long as people vote with their wallet and mouth and Razzoo’s is doing well who am I to stop them? I’m just saying if you made the commitment for a healthier lifestyle and eating habits you might want to pass on Razzoo’s unless you are comfortable with asking for special requests of grilled chicken with steamed rice.
Update 4/23/2011:
This blog entry is still one of the hottest and most often visited one of my blog. I keep getting replies which give me advice about weight loss, how to eat healthy and how I should probably not eat at Razzoo’s. So I decided to post a bit of a status update for those who fail to check out the rest of my blog.
1) This blog post was written over 14 months ago. Since then I’ve lost another 33 lbs (I’m 160 lbs as of this writing), ran 6 marathons, 4 of them with Boston Qualifying Time, including the Boston Marathon this month and I’m quite comfortable with my current physique, fitness and body. Sure, I’d like to lose another 5lbs or so to finally see my abs for the first time ever and I’m chipping away at it but I could afford to eat at Razzo’s any time now if I chose to. I really don’t need any more advice on how to eat and what to eat, I’m probably as fit and healthy as anyone could get or wish for.
2) I’ve been true to my word and neither I nor my family have eaten at Razzoo’s ever since this incident. I have no intentions of eating there ever again, certainly not until they start providing nutritional information.
3) My blog posts are actually still no. 1 and no. 2 for “Razzoo’s Nutrition” not 16th. I just checked.
4) My blog posts is and was not meant to skew stats. It was posted to point out how ignorant Razzoo’s is when it comes to healthier eating but apparently it’s no more ignorant than their customer base so it is a match made in heaven and Razzoo’s is making money by catering to their target market so it’s really no skin off my teeth.
5) Razzoo’s website, while revamped from the last time I checked, still does not provide any kind of nutritional information or nutrition guide. Until they change that my blog will beat their website in search rankings any day of the week.